I was performing some maintenance and after i was finished, my idle was not correct. If i allow it to idle at a higher rpm by holding the gas in a bit, it seems to get better after a few minutes, but its still a bit low 600700 rpm idle i plan on soldering the leads to make sure its a very strong connection, but it looks good everything else works on battery power too. Starting with lf tire, increasedecrease tire pressure until horn sounds. There was a tag on the new tb saying that idle speed relearn. Jump to latest follow status not open for further replies. Idle relearn because your vehicles engine is electronically controlled by a computer, some control conditions are maintained by power from the battery. When you reach the step to press and hold the accelerator for 20 seconds, watch the.
The idle will relearn if you put the vehicle in drive and allow the idle to come down with all accessories off for about two to three minutes. Most cars have a computer to help keep their systems running properly. The removal of electrical power from the engine erases idle memory from the pcm, the computer where it is stored. You will need to have the battery disconnected and wait 10 minutes and then relearn throttle idle. If you perform maintenance on your dodge vehicle, your vehicles computer must find out what has happened. Unperformed idle learn procedure may cause stalling issue.
I want do my part in letting it adjust itself before i ask my tuner to bump it up some more or what ever magic you do inside those pcms. It takes about 2 days for the service engine soon light to come on, but inevitably it always does and gives me a p0507 idle control system idle higher than expected warning. A stalling issue may occur if the battery goes dead or is disconnected and the idle learn procedure is not performed. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles can easily be done with the mac tools mentor touch scout, no. The horn should sound letting you know that the vehicle has entered into tpms relearn mode. Poor idle after a gm throttle body replacement install. This page basically shows you step by step how to do an idle relearn. Place gearshift in d3 while coasting at 30 mph, slowly accelerate at 12 throttle to achieve a 32 downshift. Problemsservicemaintenance high idle after cleaning throttle body fix solutionanswers so let me begin by. Automatic transmission set parking brake, start engine in p or n position. If you disconnect the cables leading to your vehicles battery, the computers source of power, and leave them disconnected for at least half an hour, you have essentially turned off your vehicles computer and forced it to reboot. Idle air volume learning description idle air volume learning is an operation to learn the idle air volume that keeps each engine within the specific range. Preconditioning before performing idle air volume learning, make sure that all of the following conditions are satisfied.
Nissan idle relearn procedure ricks free auto repair advice. Throttle body replacement and reprogramming gmc acadia forum. If anyone has read different ecu idle reset procedures for accords, id be interested to know what they are. In the event you are experiencing an erratic idle after loading a tune or after performing any action that clears kam keep alive memory, an idle relearn can help you get back on track. The vehicle was shaking pretty badly, having trouble shifting from 4th to 5th gear at highway speeds 5060 mph, and the traction control system would randomly shut off accompanied by the dashboard light. Nissan electronic throttle body idle and volume relearn procedure.
Allow vehicle to idle for one minute in n position. Last week i got a new battery for my wifes 2000 civic with auto trans, and ever since then the idle has been very low. How to resetrelearn tpms wnew sensors the how to forum. This part is also sometimes called pontiac torrent throttle bodies. If the radiator fan comes on, do not include its running time in the 5 minutes. On a trip north some time back, she began experiencing problems and was getting reduced power and stabilitrak off messages. Pontiac torrent throttle body throttle bodies replacement. The info does not state that a procedure is not needed, it is silent on the subject. Each car has a unique iac value that takes into account the condition of the sensors, air and vacuum passages, etc. Conditions for running the idle learn procedure idle learn. Press the accelerator pedal to the floor and count for 10 seconds and then release the pedal for 10 seconds. They are available for the following pontiac torrent years. Idle air relearn procedure manual outta curiosity, after a few startingstop cycles under normal driving, doesnt the cars relearn after installing cais or other stuffs i installed a custom cai, and car idles the same 750 rpm, no fluctuations on needle, and this is with midrange gas, etc. In the event you are experiencing an erratic idle after loading a tune or after performing any action that clears kam keep alive memory, an idle relearn can.
The idle relearn or reset procedure is very important, otherwise this code may still remain even after a throttle body clean. Low idlestall after battery unplug scion tc forums. I have an 07 that did the same thing but only after setting at idle for about 15 20 minutes at the bank. Anyone ever change a throttle body on an 07 suburban. Jun 11, 2007 after my tune, i drove it on the highway not on the streets so it still does not want to idle in r or d, well it still stalls, not as bad as before the tune, but it is still stalling. Is the free instructions explaining the idle speed relearn for a 2007 pontiac torrent. Gm throttle body relearn procedure ricks free auto. I just changed the timing belt and a whole lot of other things, but the only thing i can see relevant to the idle itself is that i cleaned the throttle body out. Resetting the throttle body calibration this step is. Cleaned throttle body now the rpms are too high 07 tahoe. Apr 02, 2015 1 start and idle the engine in park for 3 mins 0.
If idle speed codes are set, clear codes so the ecm can continue to learn. Under most circumstances, it will relearn after just driving the car for a while, but if your car continues to experience an abnormal idle, or you just dont want to wait for it to relearn on its own, you. Vehicle drivability computer relearn procedure is now complete. Flashman ecm throttle body cleaning and idle relearn. Actual learning will take time, ive heard as few as 5 starts and as many as 30.
The engine idle may be unstable or a dtc may set if the idle position is not learned. The usual cause is an excessive carbon buildup on the throttle body. The motors would barely run, then idle up, then barely run, then idle up, each time getting closer and closer together until the motor purred. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire. We stock throttle body parts for most pontiac models including grand prix, g6, gto, montana, g5, g8, firebird, solstice, vibe and wave. I just replaced the throttle body on my 2003 suburan 5. If your g6 does not have keyless entry, you can still reset the system yourself. We show you how to perform the pcm relearn procedure so your vehicle runs normally. If youve performed a major repair, disconnected the battery, or disconnected a maf sensor while the engine is running, you may have to perform a nissan idle relearn procedure also called an idle air volume relearn procedure. Drive the vehicle to complete the relearning process. The ecm will start to learn the new idle cells and desired rpm should start to decrease. If it does not idle correctly after this procedure, you will need to clean the throttle body. Press and hold unlock and lock buttons on the keyless entry transmitter until horn sounds, and then lf turn signal will become illuminated.
Make sure the battery if fully charged because this procedure may take up to 30 minutes and you cannot start the vehicle during this time. Please contact your wheel manufacturer to confirm fitment. During that period the idle may be higher idle than normal. After installing new tpms sensors in a vehicle, a set of tpms relearn procedures must be followed in order for the sensors successfully communicate with the vehicles ecu. Gm truck electronic throttle body etb relearn procedure.
Typically after disconnecting the battery, the computer will need to relearn the parameters and the idle will be very low for a couple days or couple hundred miles. During the drive cycle the check engine light may come on with idle speed dtcs. Vehicles equipped with engine and transmission computers may require a relearn procedure after the vehicle battery has been disconnected. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles. Quickly press the accelerator pedal to the floor and then release three times.
Jul 24, 2012 passlock iii reset procedure, reset security system on chevy, buick, oldsmobile, cadillac, pontiac, saturn, hummer. Throttleidle learn procedure repair guide autozone. In neutral it idles at 1700 rpms regardless of engine temp. Toyota does not mention a specific procedure for an idle relearn in their official service information. Gm throttle body relearn procedure ricks free auto repair. Me neither until i read the procedure to replace the air filter. But if i let it sit for another 3 sec it drops to 750rpm and idles perfectly. Press and hold the lock and unlock button on your keyless entry remote for 5 seconds, until the horn chirps twice. With the ignition on and the engine off, perform the idle learn reset in mode setup, using the scan tool.
Throttle body cleaning and idle relearn procedure pontiac. Before performing idle air volume learning, make sure that all of the following conditions are satisfied. Even the procedure for throttle body replacement does not mention a relearn procedure. Saturn vehicle drivability computer relearn procedure. Jun 24, 2015 what is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with the 3. If you replace the air cleaner element, reset the pcm with the hds, and do the pcm idle learn procedure see page. C6 drive cycle relearn procedure team zr1 corvette racers. To perform a throttle relearn on a 2008 silverado 5. The engine control module ecm learns the idle position of the throttle plate to ensure the cor rect idle. It will eventually learn it on its own, but it may take over a week of driving, during which time you will experience high and low idle speeds and possibly rough idle. After cleaning the throttle body on a gm vehicle, you may need to perform a throttle idle relearn.
Does a car have to relearn idle when a battery is disconnected. An idle relearn procedure must be performed if a computer, or chip, is replaced in the vehicle. Learning will be cancelled if any of the following conditions are missed for even a moment. Throttle relearn procedurenew batterywont idle or run. After the 3 minute run time the engine should be idling normal. Weird, very weird with low idle toyota tundra forums. Follow these procedures exactly or you will have to start from scratch. High idle after throttle body cleaning throttles engine i. After installing new throttle body, we cannot get idle relearn to work properly. Turn the ac on and allow the engine to idle for at least one minute. After horn sounds proceed as in step 5 for the next 3 sensors in the following order. Hello, after driving a buick for a while, i decided to go back to a caddy. Truck idle high after throttle cleaning code p0121 chevy.
When we put it in gear the car will start pulling harder and harder until it starts moving unless you are applying extreme brake pressure. I brought my equinox into the shop a couple of weeks ago for a couple of issues. The ecm uses nonvolatile memory to keep track of the iac position when the engine and ecm are turned off. Jun 21, 2015 it will eventually learn it on its own, but it may take over a week of driving, during which time you will experience high and low idle speeds and possibly rough idle. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. Seemed to help a little but the idle still drops slower than normal, drops to 1100rpm, up to 1200rpm, back down to 1100, then slowly settles at 850ish.
Conditions for running the throttle learn procedure. Cleaning the throttle body allowed more air to enter the engine, and the computer is compensating by adding more fuel. Place the top of the triggering tool against the drivers side front tires sidewall aimed at the valve stem location. There is a small throttle relearn procedure that should be done so the pcm and tb can. A rough idle or a ses can sometimes be caused by a change in the throttle body position sensor calibration. I did the relearn procedure i read about for gm vehicles where you let it idle in park. In some cases, when the battery is disconnectedremoved, the vehicle will need an idle relearn procedure. How do i relearn a throttle body in a 2006 chevy impala. Cleaned throttle body now the rpms are too high 07. Going to change throttle body unit in my 2006 pontiac g6 3.
It must be performed under any of the following conditions. What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with. Anytime the ecm or the throttle body is replaced, the ecm must learn the idle position. For example, to perform a throttle relearn on a 2008 silverado 5. Feb 19, 2010 truck idle high after throttle cleaning code p0121 unread post by roy wed apr 03, 20 1. Then start the engine and allow the ecm time to begin to learn. How to do ecmpcm idle learn procedure showing how to do the idle learn procedure if you have any questions feel free to ask. Overheating it is a 2006 pontiac torrent that continues to overheat it runs hot when youre sitting idle when you step on the gas it starts to. Idle air volume learning is an operation to learn the idle air volume that keeps each engine within the specific range. Procedures for idle speed relearn for 2007 pontiac. Idle relearn procedure i think civics and accords are probably similar enough that the idle ecu reset procedure is about the same.
Give it some time or go on a long highway drive, and you should be fine. So i cleaned out the throttle body on my 2006 pontiac torrent awd but im not. What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with the 3. Throttle body cleaning and idle relearn procedure pontiac g6 forum. Passlock iii reset procedure, reset security system on chevy. Using the gm diagnostic scan tool, or equivalent, refer to the onscreen reprogramming directions and perform the throttleidle learn procedure. How do i relearn a throttle body in a 2006 chevy impala 2006 chevrolet impala what would i need to do this. Pontiac torrent stabilitrak and traction control lights car.
Every time we disconnected the computer it had to relearn how to idle and in a few minutes it was ready to be driven. High idle after cleaning throttle body fixsolutionanswers cobalt. If youre pressed for time, disconnect both terminals and hold them together for a few seconds, to discharge the capacitors on the ecu should be enough to reset the computer and begin relearn. Dec 11, 2016 how to do ecmpcm idle learn procedure showing how to do the idle learn procedure if you have any questions feel free to ask. Pontiac torrent throttle body 2007 2006 2009 2008 07 06 09 08. Each time electric throttle control actuator or ecm is replaced. In this video, well be going through the required relearn instructions for. Then you can perform the idle air relearn procedure. The idle learn procedure when youre having problems, the first thing worth trying is the idle lean procedure. For the model year 2007, gm has 66 named vehicles, not including isuzu, saab, and suzuki im ports. This can usually be accomplished by keeping the vehicle running with your foot on the gas pedal and gently revving the engine til idle will stay by itself. Remanufactured throttle body relearn procedure may need to be. Jul 16, 2014 after cleaning the throttle body on a gm vehicle, you may need to perform a throttle idle relearn.
In some cases it may be necessary to drive the vehicle before. Nissan idle relearn procedure how to perform a nissan idle relearn. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles can be done with your scan tool. They did an idle air relearn 3 times now and itll run fine at 750 rpms until its run a bit then its right back up to 1100 rpms.
Anyone ever change a throttle body on an 07 suburban posted by downshiftandfloorit on 11 at 1. When to perform idle air volume learning z after replace iacvaac valve, throttle valve body or ecm z while idle speed or ignition timing is out of the specifications prerequisites confirm the vehicle as follows before performing learning. The same thing happened a couple of years ago when her battery died and we had to boost it. You would want to do this if you have done any intake modifications. Procedure 4 throttle idle learn description the engine control module ecm learns the idle position of the throttle plate to ensure the correct idle. By collecting data from actual owners and combining it with information from nhtsa, we can tell you which cars to avoid and what problems happen most.
Warmup vehicle to normal operating temperature or until. With the key on, engine off, it did the relearn in less than 30 seconds it was done. Modern vehicles, such as those manufactured by chevy, work in unison with computer modules within the engine compartment. Congratulations on installing your brandnew spectra premium electronic throttle body. Pontiac cars and trucks have a tendency to break in certain ways. Idle speed or ignition timing is out of specification. If you do not do this, you may have hesitation or other issues. The idle may be unstable or a dtc may set if the throttle position is not learned.
What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent. Jan 18, 2016 the idle is going to be high at first until the computer relearns the idle again. Start the engine and allow to idle for 2 12 minutes, while the ac and rear defroster are on. Many newer cars with powertrain control modules pcms have to relearn engine idle after a battery is disconnected. Its tough to detect a pattern, but in drive it runs around 11001200 rpm without touching the gas. Dec 07, 2011 going to change throttle body unit in my 2006 pontiac g6 3. The kam or keep alive memory is the memory that is stored in the powertrain control module pcm. If this is the case, i suggest you have your throttle body cleaned and perform an idle relearn procedure using a gm scan tool. When the battery is disconnected, a new battery installed or a tune is loaded, the engine must relearn its idle and fuel trim strategy for optimum driveability and performance. Here are some of the causes of surges, stalls at stops, slow idle speed, erratic idle. To correct any accidental changes in throttle body. I remember it took a very long time for the idle to return to normal many w. Shut the car off, and begin the throttle position idle relearn procedures as listed in the service manualother places online.
An idle relearn procedure is a way to reprogram the vehicles computer memory to idle at a specified rpm, or revolutions per minute. Let the engine idle for about 5 minutes with the throttle fully closed. Idle relearn throttle body cleaning chevy tahoe forum. Anytime the throttle body is cleaned or replaced, the ecm must learn the new throttle position. The vehicle may need to be driven for 10 miles 16 km or more to relearn the idle and fuel trim strategy.
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